Minutes of the January 16, 2002 Meeting of the Four Creeks U.A.C.


The meeting began at 7:03 p.m. In attendance were board members Chuck Pillon, Dave Dahlin, Marshall Brenden, Tom Tregoning, Stephanie Proulx, Tom Fisher, Oscar Bandelin, Dave Rockabrand, Cynthia Green, David Mobley and Tami Harris. Denise Lockner Jones was absent. Also in attendance were Deputy Seth Grant, Marissa Alegia, and Jeanette McKague.


  1. Previous minutes: The minutes of the December meeting were approved. The minutes of the Emergency meeting of December 28th were approved.

  2. Treasurer's report: The balance is $118.51. The balance in the County account is $1230.20. This amount will be used towards the Web Site fees and the first payment for the Insurance. The balance of the 2002 County account is $10,000.00. The treasurer's report was approved.

  3. Correspondence: There was no correspondence to discuss during this meeting. David Rockabrand will go through the mail and have a report for the next meeting.

  4. Community Police Report: Seth Grant: Deputy Seth Grant introduced himself and reaffirmed his position as a liaison and a resource for the community. He gave a report on the community meeting that he held at 4 p.m. on January 16th. The community meeting dealt with identifying and finding solutions for the speeding problem in the area of 160th Avenue and Cemetery Road. There will be police presence at the radar readers in the area. The radar reader boards will be stored at the fire station. The Explorers in the region have committed to transporting the reader boards between the sites and the fire station. Seth Grant has dubbed this "Operation Change Perception" as he hopes it will ensure compliance to speed reduction, and change the perception that the reader boards are not manned. Seth Grant introduced the STEP program (Selective Motorcycle Enforcement Program). Among literature that Seth Grant passed out was a listing of Emergency Numbers, Maps of recent crime in the area, and a booklet on Life Without Violence. Please contact Seth Grant if you would like copies of any of this literature. He can be contacted at e-mail address: seth.grant@metrokc.gov. His new phone number is: (206)205-8338

  5. Public questions of Seth Grant: There is a problem in our community of dogs off of leashes. The question was raised as to what legal recourse a citizen has when approached by such dogs. Deputy Seth Grant replied that while he does not enforce the leash law, he will find out more about it in our area. He suggested calling the Animal Control if it is an ongoing problem. If there are vicious dogs involved, he recommended calling 911, at which time a police officer will respond. Police Officers do have the authority to dispose of vicious animals.

    Another question that was raised was whether or not police will respond and remove/escort a code enforcement officer off of your private property when they are on your property without permission, and without a warrant. Deputy Seth Grant felt that if there was a legal reason for the enforcement officers to be on the property, no deputy would ask them to leave. However, what a legal reason would be is understandably ambiguous. Deputy Seth Grant promised to look into the issue further, to get information for the public and for his police department.

  6. Open Positions: Public Notice was posted 2 weeks prior to the meeting of open positions in district #2, #8, and #11. Rick Noe submitted a biography and his request to the Council to represent District #11. The biography was read and a motion was made to appoint Rick Noe to the Council. The motion was seconded and carried, with David Rockabrand and Cynthia Green abstaining until they could confirm no other requests had been received in the unopened mail. Rick Noe took his seat with the Council. District #2 and #8 remain open. The Council will try to appoint people to the open positions at the next Council meeting.

  7. Mission Statement: The Council discussed the issue of a Mission Statement. Several ideas were considered. A motion was made and passed to create a committee to formulate a mission statement to be presented at the next Council meeting. The following members were assigned to the committee: Oscar Bandelin, David Rockabrand, Tom Fisher, and Marshall Brenden.

  8. Meeting Location: David Rockabrand informed the Council that the current meeting place will not be available on the 3rd Wednesday of February and March. A motion was made and carried to create a committee to find a different venue. Oscar Bandelin and David Rockabrand will constitute the committee to research a new venue.

  9. Elections: The Council discussed elections and ballot counting. David Mobley read an e-mail he had generated regarding having King County control the Four Creek UAC’s elections next year. Stephanie Proulx noted that a few years ago, the Four Creeks UAC paid King County to complete the ballot counting. Several citizens felt that research had been done in the past regarding having King County involved. Kate Kaluzny suggested the members of the Council review the past meeting minutes. A citizen suggested that the Council review the procedure that the Maple Valley UAC has in effect for Elections. David Mobley volunteered to follow up on the issue. A motion was made and passed to have David Mobley continue with the research.

  10. Citizen/Community Involvement: Tom Fisher suggested that the Council invest in advertising sandwich boards to announce the meetings, to be placed at strategic locations in the community. Discussion ensued regarding other ways to advertise the Four Creek UAC meetings in order to increase community awareness and involvement. A motion was made and passed to create a committee to research the issue. The following members are on the committee: Tom Fisher, David Mobley, Rick Noe, and Tami Harris.

  11. Other: Tom Fisher requested a copy of the 2001 budget, as well as a projected budget for 2002. Marissa Alegria responded to the question regarding 2001, saying that all funds were spent on insurance and news letters. Oscar Bandelin will be following up on this issue. Chuck Pillon brought up the issue of the Elliot Bridge and the scheduled construction of the new bridge. Chuck also discussed the fact that the trailer park across from Leonard’s, on 164th, is diverting sewage into the May Valley Creek. Chuck will be completing more research on these two issues and will advise the Council at the next meeting.

  12. Taxes and Fees: The issue of Taxes & Fees was moved to the February meeting.

    The meeting adjourned at 9:07.

    Respectfully submitted,


    Tami Harris